Tuesday, July 24, 2007

i'd like to know by which standard of value this one determines 'the good', and thus be educated in understanding a system of value that posits a 'fake-good'. i'd especially like to know how to market this criteria towards my own "good", and also begin to achieve a product-by-which i can both master and enslave myself. in poetics, no less. in poetry, no more. i want a steadfast system of value [ie, Money] by which i can rate my own goods. is Good Money binding? perfect-binding? priced-on-demand?

Good Luck.


carrie hunter said...

the poems of mine i like the least are what other people seem to like the most. totally confusing.

did you try to walk through a movie this morning too?

suzanne said...

i did try to walk thru parisian street scene too. or so i was thinking, what with the steamworks, and the artificially wettened streets, and the umbrellas tilted romantically over the tables.

and too, re: how valued? not to be fathomed.

Brian Dean Bollman said...

I can't comment on "this one"s standard of value, but I arrogantly dismiss the idea of "good" poetry in general, or placing any kind of value-scale on poetry because I think such judgements inevitably impinge upon creativity. I do sometimes catch myself questioning whether or not my own poetry is "good" but I attribute this to my chronic self-doubt, and attach no intellectual significance to it.

I'm curious about your use of the market metaphor. I like to use the market as a metaphor too, but I tend to feel guilty afterword. Somewhere I got the idea that the commodification of things like poetry was profane (from reading MS Magazine as a teenager, or from talking to my brother when he was a communist?)

"I want a steadfast system of value (ie, money) by which I can rate my own goods." Very funny. And I do too, but then again I don't. Is free poetry unimpinged upon by value? Or, at least, less impinged? You're making fun of the market culture, yes? While expressing a genuine need to experience a sense of value in your efforts?

konrad said...

money is a poetics without organs

suzanne said...

an organ-grinder

Minor American said...


i think you are confusing priceless with value-less.

kathryn l. pringle said...

actually. that was me, kate pringle, not Minor American. [she's been on my computer again...]

and so is this one.

suzanne said...

I'm not at all confused. I understand a free poetry. I'm asking the question.

Brian Dean Bollman said...

Pardon my prosaic comments.

Price is an assignment of monetary value. It is only one kind of value, and different kinds of value are often difficult to correlate. Value is an experience. Experience is subjective, therefore there is no authority by which to assign a price that would be universally valid. Therefore also, price is not necessarily an accurate indication of value.
Thus free poetry is not necessarily of any greater or lesser value than expensive poetry— though it may be to a particular individual.